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Be Alert and Alarmed!

Be Alert and Alarmed!

If you think Sydney’s record auction clearance rate is high, have a look at the number of billionaire hedge fund managers warning the US Federal Reserve to wait before raising rates, lest it be a mistake from which reversal will not be easy nor pretty.

Earlier this year, we quoted Ray Dalio from Bridgewater Associates at the Davos Economic Forum; “We’re in a new era in which central banks have largely lost their power to ease.”

“If you get a downturn in the economy, the effectiveness of monetary policy will be less.”

He did say the U.S. economy was fine for now, but added later that it won’t last forever. “I worry about the downside because the downside will come,” Dalio said.

He also said that the Federal Reserve should wait until it “sees the whites of the eyes of inflation” before raising interest rates.

More recently, Stanly Druckemiller the trader under George Soros, who sold the British Pound that broke the Bank of England and forced the Sterling out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, noted;

“One of the things I would say is about 80 per cent of the big, big money we made was in bear markets and equities because crazy things were going on in response to what I would call central bank mistakes during that 30-year period. And probably in my mind the poster child for a central bank mistake was actually the U.S. Federal Reserve in 2003 and 2004. I recall very vividly at the end of the fourth quarter of 2003 calling my staff in because interest rates, fed funds were one percent. The nominal growth in the U.S. that quarter had been nine percent. All our economic charts were going through the roof, and not only did they have rates at one percent, they had this considerable period – sound familiar? – language that they were going to be there for a considerable time period.”

“Now, the fed will say well, you know, if we didn’t have rates down here and we didn’t increase our balance sheet, the economy probably wouldn’t have done as well as it’s done in the last year or two. You know what, I think that’s fair, it probably wouldn’t have. It also wouldn’t have done as well as it did in 2004 and 2005. But you can’t measure what’s happening just in the present in the near term. You got to look at the long term.”

“And to me it’s quite clear that it was the Federal Reserve policy. I don’t know whether you remember, they kept coming up with this term back at the time, they wanted an insurance policy. This we got to ensure this economic recovery keeps going. The only thing they ensured in my mind was the financial crisis. So, to me you’re getting the same language again out of policymakers. On a risk-reward basis why not let this thing a little hot? You know, we got to ensure that it gets out. But the problem with this is when you have zero money for so long, the marginal benefits you get through consumption greatly diminish, but there’s one thing that doesn’t diminish, which is unintended consequences.”

And now we have DoubleLine Capital’s Jeffrey Gundlach;

From Bloomberg: “Jeffrey Gundlach, the bond manager who has beaten 99 per cent of his peers over the past five years, said the full impact of the Federal Reserve’s “extreme policies” have yet to be felt in the market.”

The Fed has been “very well-intentioned,” Gundlach said, speaking in an interview on Sunday on Wall Street Week. “The ultimate consequences of all these extreme policies have yet to be felt and will be felt.”

“The central bank has kept rates in the U.S. near zero and embarked on unprecedented monetary stimulus since the 2008 financial crisis. Known for his contrarian views and top returns, Gundlach said rating the Fed very highly at this point is “sort of like a man who jumps out of a 20-story building, and after falling 18 stories, says, ‘So far, so good.’”

“Gundlach…said last month that if the Fed increases interest rates by mid-year, they would have to reverse course.”

On Sunday, he said that the probability of a rate increase by the Fed in June is very low, because the economic data doesn’t support such a move.

“I think the Fed would like the data to corroborate their ability to raise interest rates but it isn’t there yet,” he said.

Gundlach also cautioned investors that some mall real estate investment trusts are in a “death spiral.”

The manager also had a warning for investors seeking to be contrarian when it comes to betting against the U.S. dollar.

“Don’t do it,” he said. “The dollar, which has been a world leader, is going to be a world leader.”

Roger Montgomery is the founder and Chief Investment Officer of Montgomery Investment Management. To invest with Montgomery, find out more.

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8 Comments

  1. Feels like a Mexican standoff. No one wants a stronger currency.

    Expect ZIRP to be around for a while to come. After all, the Fed has shown it works for the big end of town.

    The world is heading into very dangerous territory the longer this goes. Everyone’s going up the risk curve and money is going into more and more unproductive assets.

    As a result, zombie companies are being kept alive which affects the sustainability of the better companies in that space.

  2. Roger,
    History teaches us that government or reserve bank easing during the weakening of the economic cycle has little effect, this was obvious during the U.S. Cycle of 2007 to 2009, but as the economy started to improve then QE had a positive affect.

    The extremely low global freight volume prices both bulk and container are suggesting the world economies are under severe stress, and since the rise of U.S. dollar (DXY) strength over the last nine months unfolded so has the recent three month decline in government released statistics. Also note the declining GAAP net profits from companies over the last two quarters.

    Another chilling factor is small company credit rejections that are now higher than during the GFC period, a liquidity problem. Also China railway freight movements have collapsed and this ties in well with ocean traffic.

    Consequently, if the Federal Reserve raises interest rates in a declining economy this would increase the rate of economic decline.

    How the U.S. markets react over the next few weeks will be most interesting. Every market index is either moving sideways or rolling over and many published indicators are at extremes or falling whilst share trade volumes are small on a rise and large on a fall.

    Market change of direction after a top generally takes a month or so to firm and then move quite quickly and we are currently around that point in time if it were to happen.
    BM

    • Thanks for sharing Bruce,
      My experience is that peaks and troughs are an exercise in frustration – they can take six months or more to roll over, whipsawing bulls and bears amid the heightened volatility.

  3. bernard-collins
    :

    I dont know anyone from rogers team but i watch all his firms emplyees on sky business and i rate them and chris joye as people of integrity and knowledge in thier chosen field.

  4. Adrian Totols
    :

    I note that the DAX was at an all time before falling 3% in a day. The power house of Europe falling because of a Greek President bearing gifts….

    From my memory, back in the late 1980’s interest rates where increased in Australia to maintain the dollar. It killed many small business who ran overdrafts from the major banks and killed many mums and dads borrowing ( vastly small amounts for property in Sydney compared with current) at 17% retail interest rate. On the other hand retirees who invested in Capital Guaranteed products like Term Deposits from a secure bank were on a gold mine for 5 years. The ASX died, the recession we had to have was had, it was not till 24/12/1993 was the green shots appearing with a closing number of 1994.

    In regards to a man who jumps out of a 20-story building, and after falling 18 stories, says, ‘So far, so good.’” I note that cats in the New York area falling out of buildings, mostly land on their feet and walk away.

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